A query about countability

Published

September 25, 2013

Suppose we are working in an elementary  context where e.g. we don’t want to rush to invoke infinitary choice principles, and want to keep background assumptions modest. What should our attitude be to the idea of countability? Countability is defined by a quantification – X are countable if there is a function f : N → X which enumerates them. But quantification over which functions?

I’m not raising Skolemite concerns here. Even if you fully buy into a rich set-theoretic background, taken at face value, different set theories will supply different enumerating functions. Thus the so-called constructible reals are uncountable according to the theory ‘ZFC + V = L’ but countable according to the theory ‘ZFC + there exists a Ramsey cardinal’. More needs to be said even by the orthodox who identify functions with sets, if it isn’t to be left somewhat indeterminate what objects are countable. But suppose we fall short of  endorsing the orthodoxy because we don’t (in the context, anyway) want definitely to buy into the wildly infinitary assumptions of set theory: we might initially seem to be in danger of making the notion of countability too indeterminate to be comfortable with. For if we are leaving it open just which functions we are prepared to countenance, we leave it correspondingly open which enumerating functions we are aiming to quantify over when we say that some objects are countable.

Yet mathematicians – at least when writing in fairly elementary contexts – cheerfully talk about the countable as if that’s unproblematic. How come? Is that just carelessness?

Well, no. Elementary talk about the countable tends (doesn’t it?) to feature  in three sorts of context:

(The second is a special case of the third, of course, but perhaps worth highlighting.) In none of these kinds of case, at any rate, does such indeterminacy as we might be leaving in the extent of the countable become problematic. So if we proceed with due caution – restrict ourselves to these cases – we can continue to talk about the (un)countable safely enough. And in elementary contexts we do exercise such caution.

Or at least, so it seems. Query: is that a fair description of ‘ordinary’ mathematical practice in elementary, non-set-theoretic, areas? If not, what is going on? While if I’m right, can you think of some texts which overtly ’fess up to the need for this element of caution?